shameless fandom squee ☺ currently obsessed with the marvel movie- & comic-verses, especially the asgardian side of things (i also blog about norse mythology). also i'm an anglophile. doctor who (new, classic, big finish), misfits, being human, red dwarf, british fantasy books, etc. also, i like ranting. loki-in-pop-culture-and-myth-specific tumblr here: 101lokis.tumblr.com
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December 18, 2012 at 11:27pm 20 notes
Reblogged from nzazza
Just a note to say that Fili was a God before he became a dwarf.
But not just any God, but Bragi, God of poetry. He will be wooing you before you see him.
There’s something in the New Zealand accent that is just so terrible when it comes to acting. It barely works.
Aaaaand this is the most hilariously xenophobic statement I’ve encountered all week. I can’t even.
With ridiculous attitudes like this, no wonder the US does so many crappy remakes of quality foreign shows.
I’m allowed to mock my own accent.
Fuck me, you’re from New Zealand? (I’m sorry!) Do you not have significant amounts of Kiwi actors on your telly being, well, Kiwi? I have never ever ever ever heard anyone in Australia ever say that about the Australian accent which is pretty damn similar. It is just not even an issue for me, because it’s just like people in my life talking, albeit with a slightly more “Scottish” accent. Weeeeiiiiiirrrrrrrrdddd. I’m kinda boggled that you would think the Kiwi accent has anything to do with acting, even in the sporting spirit of self-depreciation, but maybe you grew up watching UK telly instead? (My parents used to think UK entertainment was far more “cultured”.)
It really, really bugs me when American channels make ‘adaptations’ of overseas shows instead of playing the original. These are different to spinoffs (i.e. Primeval: New World), but when they use the same characters and storylines, but with American actors. Are Americans really that insecure about their TV shows that they have to re-make overseas for American audiences?! It really undervalues brilliant shows made in other countries, as it implies that the IDEA is good but the cast/writers/etc just aren’t up to American audiences.
The one I am ranting about is The Almighty Johnsons. It’s a weird Kiwi show about Norse gods who have a lot of sex, and I don’t actually watch it (it’s sexist as anyway basically), but apparently SyFy is looking to do an ‘adaptation’ of it. They did the same bloody thing with the best Kiwi show in existence (Outrageous Fortune), and with a fantastic Aussie show called Kath and Kim. Guess what? IT DIDN’T WORK. By all accounts, the American version of Being Human was pretty awful as well. Both OF and Kath and Kim were very quintessentially Aussie/Kiwi, so an adaptation for American audiences really misses the point.
WHY DON’T YOU JUST PLAY THE ORIGINAL?! The Canadians manage to cope with The Almighty Johnsons, as it’s on Space, why can’t Americans? I do understand that some of the references may not make sense, but in this age of globalisation, looking outside the borders of America might not be a bad thing.
It seems to me that US audiences are pretty parochial compared to most countries, who are used to a large percentage of their media originating from outside their borders; whether this is Japan or France or Singapore or Australia. Naturally this leads to confusion at the slightly different tropes, accents, norms of foreign media, even from culturally relatively similar countries, such as the rest of the Western Anglosphere.
Personally, I think if the US wants to adapt foreign shows for their own norms, good on them; it doesn’t compromise the original show. Most of them don’t seem to work, or get off the ground (anyone remember the US attempt at Red Dwarf? LOL); I am guessing because an obligate adaptation doesn’t usually have the creative passion the original creators brought to the show. Sometimes it works, apparently - I heard the US version of Queer As Folk wasn’t too bad. However, considering the global power the US has - economically, militarily, politically, culturally, I bloody wish their citizens and media (as a whole) would look outside their borders more. (Remember the panic over Georgia being invaded by the Russians? HAHA OH DEAR)
As for the Almighty Johnsons being a sexist show, it was, according to the creators, created specifically to redress the gender balance in New Zealand from being too much about women, or some shit, which is kind of ridiculous and not a good sign, but being a show about male tropes around heterosexuality is not in itself necessarily sexist even if it is a well-worn path. But yes, there is sexism, though I don’t think it’s particularly bad personally - there’s many shows on telly I just refuse to watch. The sexist characters on the show are usually shown to be ridiculous about their sexism as well. What most grated my cheese was the “battle-of-the-sexes” stuff of the first season, which I am just so bored by as a queer person. Still love the show though, having the super social-justice skill of being able to like problematic things. Everyone’s got a limit though.
Loki is not evil. Loki is just fucked up and no one cares, besides his brother, who is partially responsible for fucking him up in the first place.
Um, so you’re saying that evil people =/= people who do evil things =/= people who are fucked up?
Wow, you must have an interesting view of morality, history, war, crime and domestic violence.
Just cos you can understand why someone’s a douche - that they are suffering, doesn’t mean what they do is okay. What’s more, women are socialised to forgive men for their harmful actions, particularly in heterosexual relationships, because it is rationalised as simply hurt lashing out, and therefore given a pass.
“Understanding is not the same as forgiveness.”
I apologise for going all serious on you, but I have seen this pattern with rationalising MCU Loki’s behaviour way way WAY too much in this fandom (as well as a general pattern with female fans re male villains/anti-heroes), and I am BEYOND creeped out. Feel free to ignore, but I felt I had to respond. Please note that I’m a big fan of MCU Loki, so I’m not attacking your preferences. I’m also saying nothing about your view of Thor.
(Shit this blog is becoming snark central. I hope you like snark, followers!)
My mother has been tracing our family lineage for a while now and just found out that King Odin is her 63rd Great Grandfather. And that my Great Grandmothers maternal Grandfather’s family is basically Kings all the way back, on all sides of his family; Swedish, Irish, Danish, Norwegian.
I am so geeking out on this information. Can’t wait to receive the Family Tree on Yule!
That’s pretty impressive. That means that King Odin is one of at least 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 potential male ancestors of yours (or possibly twice that… 2 to the power of 63). If you go back far enough, everyone is related to everyone because not that many humans actually existed. Or gods. Assuming that King Odin existed.
Sorry about the opinions. I seem to be having a lot of strong feels lately. I didn’t mean for this blog to be so opinionated, even with fandom/myth. Maybe I should rant more on my twitter or dig up my dusty SJ tumblr…
